We sometimes stumble and/or feel overwhelmed (and maybe you do, too?) when trying to talk about gender and bodies in the most inclusive way, so we are reaching out for help! In this (brief!) Briefs episode, Stephanie shares about a time when she was wrong, and she examines the defenses that came up in her and ways of moving beyond them. And we are so glad that Jamie Beckenstein joins us to share his perspectives on this and to invite us into wise and compassionate ways of thinking about all this. Also! We share some great listener responses to past episodes (our listeners are the sexiest).

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Here’s a bonus video from Jamie, in which he talks about what he most wants to communicate to the world about sex and relationships: